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offline monty53
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 Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/21/06 at 14:01:43

This is an advice to all of us: Beware of other sites offering webapp script.

The member goodboy wrote a forum message in org and asked why the administrators in that site (a site that stolen the program from here) sent hackers to try to hack the web site here in net. The message was deleted now.

This is very bad, I think that it also tells alot about the people that are responsible for that site in org. They should answer goodboy the question and not delete his message.

I do not trust those hackers and I am very scared even to try the program that they stolen from here and modified it. I suspect that they put some bad code in it like trojans. This is why I write my message here in the security forum place.

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offline monty53
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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/21/06 at 16:57:06

Now they block me there:

11/21/06 - 21:54:08 Your IP is: 195.175.-.-
You are banned from this site..... Rejecting connection


I think it is because the truth as written here about them is too heavy for them.

No the end of the world for me, there is nothing but hackers and thiefs in org anyway.

Monty



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offline Ted
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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/21/06 at 17:27:06

Yes, the orges may be amature hacks and second rate theives but they are people too. Everybody needs a place to go and share the same interests. It's human nature. I pitty the unsuspecting who stumble upon their nest.



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offline On
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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/21/06 at 17:38:57

Monty dont let them make you angry!

Tell you what I will do, I will post the ips of them everytime they visit our site and you will decide what to do with the ip, ban it or whatever wink

It may seems as I am violating some ethical rule, but I actually don't we simply should not accept that anyone of our users will be mistreated or banned anywhere else for posting anything here! And if that happens this is not an issue that only concerns that person but our entire site. So this is just  a  little compensation that the site can give you in return.

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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/21/06 at 17:49:46

Here is a start package from today lol

host: modemcable200.249-57-74.mc.videotron.ca ip: 74.57.249.200 (Anthone)
host: client-86-27-52-216.brhm.adsl.virgin.net ip: 86.27.52.216  (Lee)
host: c-24-19-75-234.hsd1.wa.comcast.net  ip: 24.19.75.234  (Jos Brown)


Monty you decide, should I ban them?



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offline Jack Deth
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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/21/06 at 20:31:56

Looky Looky...  anton is from Montreal???

No wonder he is such a total prick.



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offline Ted
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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/21/06 at 21:40:18

What happened with anthone may have been a nusiance but I think we came out of it better because of it. I know I did. If it doesn't kill you it makes you stonger.
It definitely made me take a good long look at the forum post code, something I haven't done in a long time. I for one see a lot of poor coding practices and a lot of cleaning up to do. I'm surprised after all the claims of "core code clean ups" being made. I once again find myself going back to may own files and cleaning them up rather than upgrading. I will post all my findings because I may think it's supposed to be one way and the group may decide on another. Such as the "white space" thing. So many great ideas (like the trim sub) and I played it old school with the one liner for example. Do I think my way is better? Absolutely not! That's why I'll just post the findings and let the group decide what's best.



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offline Ted
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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/21/06 at 21:41:36

I'm off subject again, ain't I? oops



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offline Aimod
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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/22/06 at 05:00:41

Return the favor and ban em, why not. I know banty recording everything that is said on thees bords and commenting on it on her site, how mutch does she see and are we letting her see it?

To ban someone with a issue as org have done is wrong and i think goodboy and monty should get a honest answer AND a explanation why the ban.

One action leads to another, and recent activites by afew Org's is just plain stupid.

Its time all on .Net distans form all activites around Org and totaly ignore em, for it dont matter what have been said or done in the past, this war hurts WebApp as a name, hurts all the people involved.

Guys, its time for Net to take a step forward and concentrate to make this great script what it should be.

/Roger





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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/22/06 at 08:31:39

I agree with Roger and still waiting to hear from Monty, he was very upset last night when we talked on skype. He also says that someone from org was scanning his ip for open ports, I suggested him to complain to the isp of these "unknown" persons.

I can see that the owner of org (Ms Jos Brown) was trying some funnies here too:

IP: 24.19.75.234  33442  /cgi-bin/index.cgi  action=forum&board=chat&op=display&num=10015&start=0  HTTP/1.1  http://www.web-app.net.nyud.net:8090/cgi-bin/index.cgi  
IP: 24.19.75.234  33170  /cgi-bin/index.cgi  -  HTTP/1.1  http://secure.surfola.com/surfola?p=bd&c=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.web-app.net  


Added a ban on her IP and now she has been trying to avoid the ban with open proxies (atleast 4 of them that I noticed), I will consider to send a complaint to her ISP per abuse if she repeats these silly things.

Lee from Scotland (the one who complaint to Jos about Monty writing "bad" things here), has also tried to avoid the ban here by absuing her dynamic address, its pitty but now her domain is banned. Its pitty because I personaly really like Scotland, I lived there myself and I  think its sad that many users from her domain won't be able to visit us.

On



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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/22/06 at 08:58:49

I know I'm politicaly incorrect by this but why ban them. What could they possibly accomplish outside of making themselves look like bottom feeding scum bags. We have the brains and the brawn to handle anything they can throw at us.
The orges, on the otherhand, are running scared. They have no idea what a mess their in or how to fix it.
I for one welcome them at the box to do as they please. NO FEAR!



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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/22/06 at 09:27:37


Ted said:
I know I'm politicaly incorrect by this but why ban them.



Monty was banned approx. 5 min after an admin in org read his forum post here (first post in this thread, asking for why goodboy was banned), this is not just a coincident! I know it for certain because we have been chating on skype while he was banned!

It is about protecting our users here.

I couldn't care less that they spy around here. Or even try hacking (and not just because that we know allready that they are incapable of that). BUT once they ban users from here like goodboy and monty53 for posting things HERE that they do not agree with and then afterward post lies about them and the reasons for why they were banned, then it gets serious, Did I aslo mention that admins from org tried to hack our users?



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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 11/22/06 at 10:04:24

banty banned me because I confronted her on the unethical activities she practices and promotes in her private threads. I was immediately banned and the posts where deleted. I'm sure she did it with love.



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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 12/21/06 at 14:12:46

Just an update:

A total of 63 security fixes so far (approx. only 5 of them are also known by org). I think that it was good to delay the release of webapp. I also find it irresponsible of org to release a script with these security issues while they were warned in advance here about these issues.

On



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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 12/21/06 at 22:34:46

Exactly...

The next release of the REAL WebAPP, which is the script developed here by the Actual WebAPP Developers will blow the lid off of the candy-coated trash they are peddling over there.



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 Re: Beware of other sites offering webapp script
 Posted on: 12/21/06 at 23:19:40


Jack Deth said:
Exactly...

The next release of the REAL WebAPP, which is the script developed here by the Actual WebAPP Developers will blow the lid off of the candy-coated trash they are peddling over there.



Something is funny in the air... heard some rumors about hackers trying to hack org sites, its not confirmed yet, usually it happens after someone publishes an article about some known issues wink.

Now Jos really messed up things, she sent an email advertizing about her script to 1 million users... in which all are target for hackers! rolleyes

We warned about it... but some were too impressed by her great copyrights delete/copy/overwrite  skills lol.  What is she going to do now? Cry to the hackers that she doesn't know what she was doing?



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