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offline eranera
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 Posted on: 08/24/04 at 07:33:03

hello
i would like to translate your system to hebrew
and i got an idea how to publish it
do you agree thet i will open support site for the hebrew system and distribut it there?
i will be very happy if you will let me do it and i want to be the only distibuter of the hebrew system
send me your answer asap so we could start  publish the hebrew system and to open the hebew support site
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offline DenDen33
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/24/04 at 08:00:53

I believe there may be a hebrew Language file.  This came up a while back.  ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE????

Anyway, WebAPP is open source.  You can do anything you like as long as you follow the GNU license.
http://www.gnu.org... external link
The only thing you really can't do is claim credit for WebAPP itself.

So, go at it, and welcome!




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offline arevivalist
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/24/04 at 10:16:32

Hi Eranera.

Denden, I think this one request of Eranera's can't be honored,

i will be very happy if you will let me do it and i want to be the only distibuter of the hebrew system
. I believe the license will not allow for this. If he/she uses any Hebrew language files already in existence he cannot put his own copyright on it and exclude others from using it. Will you elaborate on this Denden?smile



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offline DenDen33
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/24/04 at 10:26:50

If he makes serious code changes, then he can distro his own spin-off, but no matter what he does, he must still give WebAPP credit.

Hebrew on a computer is quite different than western languages, so I'm sure he would have to make some minor code adjustments, but not enough to call it his own.

What we can't do, is have him be the ONLY distributer of a specific webapp, and still call it webapp.

If he does do a serious workover of core code, he can call it whatever he likes, be exclusive, etc... But again, he must give credit, and if he claimes exclusivity, his users cannot ask us for support, he's fully responsible for it.

It's open source, and once in the wild, there is no exclusivity on the core code, not even to us, but you are allowed to create new things from it with substancial changes and then call it your own to an extent.

Eranera: This idea of being the only distributer does go against the open source movement.  Part of our community is sharing ideas, code, and distros, and if not done just right, can cause some negative attitude.  If all you have to do is a new language file, you can certainly be the only one to distribute the language file.

GREAT CATCH  arevivalist!  I didn't catch that "exclusive" part, I was half asleep. LOL



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offline arevivalist
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/24/04 at 10:49:17

OK.From a post by Ditto. [url]http://cornerstone.web-app.net /cgi-bin/index.cgi?action=forum&board=Welcome&op=display&num=4135[/url] Here is the url of a Hebrew language Web-APP driven site. You could ask them to let you have a copy of the Hebrew language files.smile



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offline On
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/24/04 at 11:04:39



hello
i would like to translate your system to hebrew
and i got an idea how to publish it
do you agree thet i will open support site for the hebrew system and distribut it there?
i will be very happy if you will let me do it and i want to be the only distibuter of the hebrew system
send me your answer asap so we could start  publish the hebrew system and to open the hebew support site




eranera shalom,

Todda, nismah meeod im toohal lazor betirgum leivrit.
im atta tsarih ezra tsor kesher be email: redirect@online.no

Atta yahol lehirashem po?

On :)






"Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live."
(Damian Conway from the book Perl Best Practices).



[*]LANGUAGE FILES (and language support) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP SECURITY PATCHES -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP MODS (addons) -> http://www.web-app.net... external link  /perl/webapp/modapp/
[*]FOR THE LATEST VERSION OF STATSLOG script (security addon) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]TO CONTACT ME CLICK HERE-> info@mlapp.org OR VISIT-> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
 


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offline On
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/24/04 at 11:07:47


OK.From a post by Ditto. http://cornerstone.web-app.net ... external link Here is the url of a Hebrew language Web-APP driven site. You could ask them to let you have a copy of the Hebrew language files.


hebrew.lng file does not exist anywhere as far as I know.

This guy (fro dragon) has no hebrew language file there, its hardcoded and besides he was not willing to help asked him several times.

I can do the translation if eranera changes his mind.  

Other information: I am having teams (teachers groups) working on translations to these languages: 1.) arabic 2.) somali 3.) three kurdish versions 4.) Persi 5.) Vitnamese 6.) albanian and several other languages are due to start soon. The translation is aiming at Genesis 1.0 version and "my version" of webapp... (expanded the code with 200 mb ;) ).

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"Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live."
(Damian Conway from the book Perl Best Practices).



[*]LANGUAGE FILES (and language support) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP SECURITY PATCHES -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP MODS (addons) -> http://www.web-app.net... external link  /perl/webapp/modapp/
[*]FOR THE LATEST VERSION OF STATSLOG script (security addon) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]TO CONTACT ME CLICK HERE-> info@mlapp.org OR VISIT-> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
 


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offline bantychick
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/24/04 at 13:22:49

We (the SiteLibrary group) are also doing some work on Languages and have finished a little.
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offline On
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/24/04 at 16:02:46


We (the SiteLibrary group) are also doing some work on Languages and have finished a little.


Great!
Thought about registring a new domain only for the language files.. been waiting for a "yes" from floyd for a long time now (since that was his idea while starting the language forum was my idea :) ), will give it another week and start doing it.

Otherwise have created a module for translation I call it "My language" in which every regsitered member can translate the site to his own language on line :)

Maybe we should join forces?

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"Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live."
(Damian Conway from the book Perl Best Practices).



[*]LANGUAGE FILES (and language support) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP SECURITY PATCHES -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP MODS (addons) -> http://www.web-app.net... external link  /perl/webapp/modapp/
[*]FOR THE LATEST VERSION OF STATSLOG script (security addon) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]TO CONTACT ME CLICK HERE-> info@mlapp.org OR VISIT-> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
 


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offline bantychick
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/24/04 at 17:11:34

Sure!

I can't do much in any other language besides English, but I'm not linguaphobic, so I can process files and mods and stuff.

Some of the others in the SiteLibrary group are multilingual. They're busy alot, but they do a lot of good things in between.

Let us know what's happening whenever it does, and then we can see.
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offline On
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/24/04 at 17:15:44



Sure!

I can't do much in any other language besides English, but I'm not linguaphobic, so I can process files and mods and stuff.

Some of the others in the SiteLibrary group are multilingual. They're busy alot, but they do a lot of good things in between.

Let us know what's happening whenever it does, and then we can see.



Sure! :)





"Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live."
(Damian Conway from the book Perl Best Practices).



[*]LANGUAGE FILES (and language support) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP SECURITY PATCHES -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP MODS (addons) -> http://www.web-app.net... external link  /perl/webapp/modapp/
[*]FOR THE LATEST VERSION OF STATSLOG script (security addon) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]TO CONTACT ME CLICK HERE-> info@mlapp.org OR VISIT-> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
 


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offline joker
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/25/04 at 06:45:45

ani rsom ani write post



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offline VoDkA
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/25/04 at 06:52:14

Eran and i dont want to claim the system for ourselves.
we are just asking to claim the hebrew translation for ourselves.
we are translating it by ourselves (i did most of the work tongue)
Rotter.net-the owner of the only full translation of system in israel are very selfish beacause allot of reasons,not only beacause the system (he has the biggest d\l forum is israel and he is working on it for 8 years allready !!)

have a nice cool day (because here in israel its 32 degres ): )
kfir



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offline On
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/25/04 at 06:52:25



ani rsom ani write post


Ma atta ommer? confused





"Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live."
(Damian Conway from the book Perl Best Practices).



[*]LANGUAGE FILES (and language support) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP SECURITY PATCHES -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP MODS (addons) -> http://www.web-app.net... external link  /perl/webapp/modapp/
[*]FOR THE LATEST VERSION OF STATSLOG script (security addon) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]TO CONTACT ME CLICK HERE-> info@mlapp.org OR VISIT-> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
 


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offline On
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 Re: WebAPP
 Posted on: 08/25/04 at 06:58:40


Eran and i dont want to claim the system for ourselves.
we are just asking to claim the hebrew translation for ourselves.
we are translating it by ourselves (i did most of the work )
Rotter.net-the owner of the only full translation of system in israel are very selfish beacause allot of reasons,not only beacause the system (he has the biggest d\l forum is israel and he is working on it for 8 years allready !!)

have a nice cool day (because here in israel its 32 degres ): )
kfir




You can do whatever you like.. but please keep the headers on the files with credits to developers. (and as DenDen mentioned... dont pretend to be the one that created the script its simply not fair and certainly not legal with regard to GPL).

rotter.net is using an old version 0.97 I hacked his site about half a year ago and suggested some security patch :)

I think its great that you guys are offering this script to Israelies and just hope that you will provide it for free as opensource.  The philosophy of open source is about making living from the servics and not of the scripts as you must know.  This enhance faster development of scripts plus allowing people to make living.

If you let people to freely download it.. you will get thousands of users and than you could provide extra services for cash. But if you are going to charge them anything for using the scripts your all work will be for nothing, webapp needs to eb further deveoped. And if you charge for it now you may even be liable to lawseiuts by unhappy... cutomers. Dont say I didnt warn you :)
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"Always code as if the guy who ends up maintaining your code will be a violent psychopath who knows where you live."
(Damian Conway from the book Perl Best Practices).



[*]LANGUAGE FILES (and language support) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP SECURITY PATCHES -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]FOR THE LATEST WEB-APP MODS (addons) -> http://www.web-app.net... external link  /perl/webapp/modapp/
[*]FOR THE LATEST VERSION OF STATSLOG script (security addon) -> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
[*]TO CONTACT ME CLICK HERE-> info@mlapp.org OR VISIT-> http://www.mlapp.org... external link
 


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